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On this podcast we interview farmers and ranchers who aren’t afraid to think for themselves and because of that, have created more profitable and enjoyable businesses for them and their family.

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#50: Luke Perman

Podcast Episode #50Episode 50     Luke Perman and his family run Rock Hills Ranch in North Central South Dakota. He shares why they have the diversity of enterprises they do, from cow/calf, to stocker to a custom sheep grazing enterprise and how each of...

#49: Louis Martin

Podcast Episode #49Episode 49     Louis Martin knew very young that he wanted to be a ranch manager, and recognized early on that there is a big difference between managing cows, and managing a business than runs cows. He took every opportunity to learn from...

#48: Allen Williams

Podcast Episode #48Episode 48    Allen has an incredible resume filled with research, production experience and consulting experience world wide which has given him insight into some of the most successful farm and ranch businesses around the globe. In this...

#47: Nathan “Bub” Daugherty

Podcast Episode #47Episode 47   Nathan "Bub" Daugherty and his wife Lakayah have an incredible story of hard work, sacrifice and determination that has resulted in developing a lifestyle that they enjoy! Bub spent years working overtime in a coal mine saving...

#46: Pete Bauman

Podcast Episode #46Episode 46   Pete Bauman has a range of experience working with grasslands but in his role as SDSU Range Field Specialist he works one on one with producers and grassland managers across South Dakota working to improve the grasslands and...

#45: Jared Luhman

Podcast Episode #45Episode 45   This week I am doing a solo episode to discuss how using the philosophies of Kit Pharo and other regenerative ranchers and farmers we transitioned our farm to a position that didn't require to full time people leading to me getting...

#44: Kit Pharo Kat Weinert

Podcast Episode #44Episode 44   Kat Weinert along with her husband Sean, interviewed in episode 5, have an incredibly unique story of starting a ranch from scratch. Today, Kat shares her tips and tricks for managing a ranch while raising 4 kids while her husband...

#43: Kit Pharo

Podcast Episode #43Episode 43   Everybody wants to have a competitive advantage in this industry, but most think it's not possible, or don't have time to discover some of the competitive advantages that are available to them. Kit shares how having a cost...

#42: Ryan Schmid

Podcast Episode #42Episode 42   Ryan Schmid is an entomologist at Ecdysis where he researches the importance of insects and the roles they play in our ranch businesses and our grassland ecosystems. He shares some pretty cool data and fun facts and shares...

#41: Andree and Bianca Soares

Podcast Episode #41Episode 41   Andree and Bianca Soares of Star Creek Land Stewards have built a solid service based grazing business where they manage 7200 sheep and goats in California. They strategically graze in highly populated areas as well as along fire...

#40: Taylor Collins

Podcast Episode #40Episode 40 Taylor Collins has an awesome story of building a national food brand from scratch, selling and then starting a regenerative ranch from scratch in Texas along with his wife Katie. He shares a ton of value that should get anybody excited...

#39: Cody McDaniel

Podcast Episode #39Episode 39   Cody has a pretty unique story of doing what many would not be willing to do and moving his family farm and ranching business not once, but twice! First ten miles down the road, and second to another state! Hear his journey and the...

#38: Patrick Robinette

Podcast Episode #38Episode 38   Patrick Robinette didn't grow up on a farm but when he had the opportunity to move back to his in-laws family farm in North Carolina he took the opportunity. They immediately began the transition from conventional crop farm, to...

#37: Doug Ferguson

Podcast Episode #37Episode 37   After continuing to hear great feedback on the episodes we have based around sell/buy marketing, I had Doug Ferguson come back on for another episode to go more in depth on this business plan. We learn how to talk to your bankers,...

#36: Duke Phillips

Podcast Episode #36Episode 36   Duke Phillips built a ranch management business managing nearly 300,000 acres across the American West starting with nothing more than a truck and trailer, a few horses and twenty cows. Listen in to hear Duke's fascinating story...

#35: Brian Munger – 1883 Ranch

Podcast Episode #35Episode 35   Brian Munger, along with his wife and six kids, run a diverse ranching business in Nebraska.They operate their personal low-input, regenerative model cowherd and they manage a ranch and cowherd for a non-operating land and cattle...

#34: Ryan Usmar – Furracabad Station

Podcast Episode #34Episode 34     Ryan Usmar manages Furracabad Station in Australia and is part of the start of Pharo Cattle Australia. Listen to hear about their cattle station, their rotational grazing system, and how they brought PCC genetics to...

#33: Doug Voss – Low Input Grazing

Podcast Episode #33Episode 33     Over the years Doug transitioned from a high input commodity dairy farm to a low input grazing based operation with a stop as an organic crop farmer in between. Hear how he made those transitions and how his focus has never...

#32: Kit Pharo – Make Ranching Fun Again

Podcast Episode #32Episode 32 Today Kit shares how we can reduce the work required to run a ranch and make it more enjoyable! If a business isn't enjoyable it's not sustainable and there are some very simple changes that we can make to simplify our ranch businesses....

#31: Ed Bezett – A New (Zealand) Perspective

Podcast Episode #31Episode 31 Ed Bezett came to our farm in 1981 as a foreign exchange student and wasn't afraid to tell my grandpa that he thought there was a better way of running our beef, sheep and cattle operation here in Goodhue, MN. This began a decades long...

#30: Blaine Hitzfield – Building a Food Marketing Brand

Podcast Episode #30Episode 30 In part 2 of our conversation with Seven Sons we talk to Blaine Hitzfield, CEO of Distribution for Seven Sons. He goes into depth on the transition from commodity production and marketing farm to a direct, diverse and profitable farm! He...

#29: Blake Hitzefield – Seven Sons Production

Podcast Episode #29Episode 29 Seven Sons is a farm and food brand from Indiana that has focused on raising and marketing grass finished and pasture based meat products. Today we talk to Blake Hitzfield, Chief Ranching Officer for Seven Sons. He talks about the...

#28: Doug Ferguson – Marketing

Podcast Episode #28Episode 28 Doug Ferguson is a cattle marketing expert, blogger under his blog and contributor to Beef Magazine in his column Dougs Market Intel. He has also built a stocker/backgrounder business of his own in southeast Nebraska. We talk about how...

#27: Jim Howell – Ranching in Unique Environments

Podcast Episode #27Episode 27 This is our second conversation with Jim Howell, CEO of Grasslands LLC. Check out episode 13 of the Herd Quitter podcast to learn about Jim's story, experience, and how he started Grasslands LLC.Today, however, we dig in deep into three...

#26: Jon Luhman – My Family’s Regenerative Journey

Podcast Episode #26Episode 26 I might be biased, but this is my favorite episode yet. Every time I talk with my dad about the history of our farm I learn something new! In today's episode, I sit down with my dad and get into the details of how our farm came to be what...

#25: Robert Pulliam – Changing Paradigms

Podcast Episode #25Episode 25 Robert Pulliam has a history of diversified farming in Missouri, beef production in Iowa, 12 years in ministry, and then found himself managing a ranch in the mountains of Western Colorado. After all his experience in agriculture, it was...

#24: Kit Pharo – Building a Network

Podcast Episode #24Episode 24 Whatever your goals in life, career or business plans, very rarely are we able to accomplish much entirely on our own. Building a network around you of people to bounce ideas off, share work load, and to learn from is essential and Kit...

#23: Jim Gerrish – Western vs. Eastern Ranching

Podcast Episode #23Episode 23   In part 2 of our two part conversation with Jim we discuss the differences in environment, and management of grasslands in arid Western environments and Midwest and Eastern high moisture environments. We discuss how every location...

#22: Jim Gerrish – Kick The Hay Habit

Podcast Episode #22Episode 22   Jim Gerrish is an experienced grazing expert and well known author of Management Intensive Grazing, and Kick the Hay Habit. In part 1 of a 2 episode series we discuss the expense of making hay and how to reduce hay making through...

#21: August Horstmann – Changing Perspectives

Podcast Episode #21Episode 21   August had his eyes set on building a profitable angus cattle operation operating in the old school way of high inputs and labor. After getting started he quickly realized it wasn't as easy as it seems. A coworker recommended he...

#20: Wes Eaton – Ranching in the Desert

Podcast Episode #20Episode 20 Wes ranches in the Chihuahua Desert of Southeast New Mexico. Of all the people I have talked to, his environment might be the toughest to run cattle in. It's dry on an average year, and he's currently in the 3rd year of a drought. Grass...

#19: Kit Pharo – Debt in a Ranching Business

Podcast Episode #19Episode 19 Kit and I discuss the role that debt plays in a ranch business. It certainly can have a place to help a business when used wisely. However, Kit believes, and I agree, that it's not a necessity and that freeing yourself from debt can lead...

#18: Wally Olson – Part 2 – Sell – Buy Marketing

Podcast Episode #18Episode 18 Wally joins us for a second week to discuss the Bud Williams sell/buy livestock marketing concept. We discuss how it is applied to stocker enterprises and cow/calf enterprises. We get more in depth on a few of the things we discussed last...

#17: Wally Olson – Building a Profitable Ranch

Podcast Episode #17Episode 17 Wally Olson says the primary thing an individual needs to be concerned with is profit. In this episode, Wally discusses the many things he has found to help ranches increase profitability. He shares how he implemented them in his ranching...

#16: Bobby Thoman – First a Businessman, Second a Cowboy

Podcast Episode #16Episode 16 Bobby Thoman's family got out of the cattle business long before he wanted to bring it back, leaving it to him to research and determine the right course of action for his cattle enterprise. He was intentional about selecting a type of...

#15: Joshua and Tara Dukart – Journey Back to the Ranch

Podcast Episode #15Episode 15 Joshua and Tara never planned on going back to the family ranch. They were told it wasn't a viable option, and Tara wasn't sure that's the life she wanted. But after a number of experiences and connections made them realize that they...

#14: Heifer Development

Podcast Episode #14Episode 14 Kit Pharo and I discuss heifer development programs, and how a low cost program can make heifer development a profitable enterprise despite the percent bred. We also discuss how a low cost development program produces heifers that will...

#13: Jim Howell

Podcast Episode #13Episode 13 Jim Howell is co-founder and CEO of Grasslands LLC. In this podcast we talk to Jim about his family ranch in the mountains of Colorado, his experience traveling the world and the country visiting ranches and how he implemented principles...

#11: Jenny Drake

Podcast Episode #11Episode 11 Jenny Drake and her husband Darrin have built a diverse pasture based ranch business in Tennessee. Faced with challenges from shortages of labor, to steep slopes, endophyte infected fescue and extreme summer heats, it's fascinating to...

#10: Dallas Mount

Podcast Episode #10Episode 10 Dallas Mount is the owner of Ranch Management Consultants and their popular Ranching for Profit School. He travels the country teaching ranchers how to be better managers of their ranching business.    Resources Mentioned: Critical...

#9: How to Value a Bull

Podcast Episode #9Episode 9 On today's episode we talk to Kit Pharo about how to value a bull. This process involves deciding first of all what your goals for your herd are and selecting a seedstock producer who's production model compliments your goals. We also...

#8: Scott Assman: From Cows to Bison

Podcast Episode #8Episode 8 Today, we talk to a rancher who is such a herd quitter, his family left the beef industry entirely and shifted to bison ranching! It's especially interesting as some of the advantages you'll hear him talk about with bison are the very...

#7: Diversified Ranch Businesses

Podcast Episode #7Episode 7 Jerry and his family have built an extremely diverse and profitable ranch with enterprises ranging from cow/calf and bison production to hunting, agritourism and even a brewery. Hear how this diversification as well as holistically managing...

#6: What’s Necessary to Run a Profitable Ranch

Podcast Episode #6Episode 6 In this episode I have a conversation with Kit Pharo about what is really necessary to run a profitable ranch. What he says may surprise you! It doesn't have to be as expensive or as complicated as you think.As always, check us out at Herd...

#5: Starting a Ranch From Scratch

Podcast Episode #5Episode 5: Sean Weinert Sean and his wife Kat have been building a ranch from scratch. Hear how they have done this with a focus on minimal inputs, minimal investment in equipment and with having the right genetics for their environment. Resource...

#4: Switching from Cows to Stockers

Podcast Episode #4Episode 4: Blake Allen Blake was struggling to make a profit with cow/calf on his ranch. He decided to make a shift out of the cow business and into the stocker business, focusing on minimal inputs and capturing seasonal market premiums. Resources...

#3: From Working Cows Podcast to Working Cows on his Own Ranch

Podcast Episode #3Episode 3: Clay In today's episode we talk to Clay Conry, and hear how he took what he learned hosting the Working Cows Podcast and applied it to his own ranch that he and his family started recently! Resources Mentioned:Ranching for Profit...

#2: The Original Herd Quitter

Podcast Episode #2Episode 2: Kit In todays conversation, we talk with Kit Pharo of Pharo Cattle Company. He shares his history and why he started Pharo Cattle Company as well as how he came up with the Herd Quitter concept. Resources Mentioned:Allan Savory - Holistic...

#1: Introduction

Podcast Episode #1Episode 1: Intro Today's episode is shorter than most. I introduce myself and my farm and background and share with you what the Herd Quitter Podcast is all about! New podcast episodes will be released later in February and will be released weekly...

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